Tryfon, stop that child hysteria responding one by one my axioms, you're spamming right now.
Dear Mr Kingscrusher,
although I perfectly understand that you don't want your internet chess (which is your free time enjoyment) spoiled by constantly losing to engine cheaters. And altough I agree that there are a lot of those out there and that it is quite a serious problem on the chess servers, I think that you are really overdoing it with your accusations. I am 100% sure that Dr-Zaitzev is not an engine cheater for the following reasons:
1. I know his real name and that he has a FIDE rating which is close to 2300.
2. I have talked with him while playing him (he appeared as a Skype guest on my challenge). Although his English is not the best (naturally, he's from Spain after all) which makes it sometimes hard to understand what he actually means (sorry, Zaitzev :D ), he said some sensible things that make me think, he really understands some things about chess.
3. His style is indeed quite irregular. He mostly plays "crap openings" in order to avoid theory but I have even had some theory battles with him (e.g. Ruy Lopez Schliemann) from which I can tell that he can play normally and knows theory if it's demanded.
4. In the middlegame I find that he often has really creative tactical ideas, which just makes me think that he's very resourceful. Of course that doesn't make him more suspicipous as, like everybody else, also he commits serious tactical mistakes from time to time.
I think that's enough reasons to be completely sure that Dr-Zaitzev is really not cheating.
On a different note I would like to say some words about your role in this controversy.
Although being able to report people for engine abuse is a necessary right in today's internet chess, you have appeared extraordinily often in such discussions. In the past I found cheating suspicions to be "your thing", e.g. you went a bit paranoid after the first marathon (where the obvious cheaters were detected), saying that everybody in the top 10 should identify themselves to lichess. I think that is a bit over the top, after all we do this all for fun and there were no serious reasons to have suspicions on any of the remaining players.
Also those suspicions / accusations can hurt people's feelings. I think that that kind of shitstorming during your stream and now in this forum is not a very gentlemanly way to go about your problem which in my opinion is the following: You can't seem to stand that there are people who are better at chess than you although they don't play according to the principles you think are "correct". Just accept it, Dr-Zaitzev is just a way more ressourceful and better chessplayer than you are.
Finally I want to tell everybody who took part in this discussion that we shouldn't forget that this is our free time, we want to have fun here and we should be a community that is friendly and respectful to each other. I am already quite tired of those endless discussions, let's just play chess and be happy that we can do this in such a paradisic environment as lichess.org.
Cheers
Kabeljau
although I perfectly understand that you don't want your internet chess (which is your free time enjoyment) spoiled by constantly losing to engine cheaters. And altough I agree that there are a lot of those out there and that it is quite a serious problem on the chess servers, I think that you are really overdoing it with your accusations. I am 100% sure that Dr-Zaitzev is not an engine cheater for the following reasons:
1. I know his real name and that he has a FIDE rating which is close to 2300.
2. I have talked with him while playing him (he appeared as a Skype guest on my challenge). Although his English is not the best (naturally, he's from Spain after all) which makes it sometimes hard to understand what he actually means (sorry, Zaitzev :D ), he said some sensible things that make me think, he really understands some things about chess.
3. His style is indeed quite irregular. He mostly plays "crap openings" in order to avoid theory but I have even had some theory battles with him (e.g. Ruy Lopez Schliemann) from which I can tell that he can play normally and knows theory if it's demanded.
4. In the middlegame I find that he often has really creative tactical ideas, which just makes me think that he's very resourceful. Of course that doesn't make him more suspicipous as, like everybody else, also he commits serious tactical mistakes from time to time.
I think that's enough reasons to be completely sure that Dr-Zaitzev is really not cheating.
On a different note I would like to say some words about your role in this controversy.
Although being able to report people for engine abuse is a necessary right in today's internet chess, you have appeared extraordinily often in such discussions. In the past I found cheating suspicions to be "your thing", e.g. you went a bit paranoid after the first marathon (where the obvious cheaters were detected), saying that everybody in the top 10 should identify themselves to lichess. I think that is a bit over the top, after all we do this all for fun and there were no serious reasons to have suspicions on any of the remaining players.
Also those suspicions / accusations can hurt people's feelings. I think that that kind of shitstorming during your stream and now in this forum is not a very gentlemanly way to go about your problem which in my opinion is the following: You can't seem to stand that there are people who are better at chess than you although they don't play according to the principles you think are "correct". Just accept it, Dr-Zaitzev is just a way more ressourceful and better chessplayer than you are.
Finally I want to tell everybody who took part in this discussion that we shouldn't forget that this is our free time, we want to have fun here and we should be a community that is friendly and respectful to each other. I am already quite tired of those endless discussions, let's just play chess and be happy that we can do this in such a paradisic environment as lichess.org.
Cheers
Kabeljau
lol I watched some of the concerned "streams" and I can only fully agree with kingscrusher on his points ...
Congrats to KC for offering chess fans a real stream.
Congrats to KC for offering chess fans a real stream.
Wow. Kingscrusher, you have really let yourself down here. How spiteful and distasteful.
First, don't talk about things you don't have any idea about. Such as the legal system (obviously) or how to beat Dr-Zaitzev (lol).
Second, you throw around insults and abuse like a troll and yet seem, somehow, to get away with it. You insinuate in a public forum that someone is a cheat, when everyone knows that this is not the way to do it. Use the 'report' button. He's blatantly not a cheat - but we all know how you hate it if you're not the centre of attention and the one who is winning...
You cannot criticise someone who makes the effort to commentate in a second language for making mistakes, and ripping into them for it is quite honestly distasteful. Have you ever tried doing that? Maybe try commentating properly in your mother tongue first!
Your commentary is watched by many people. A lot of these are there to laugh at the constant 'er... ums', nervous laughs and 'gordon bennetts' that pass for intelligent commentary. The little asides are hilarious afterwards. People don't say too much on Twitch when you're around because you're so trigger happy with the ban button.
Personally I enjoy the car-crash chess you play... and I've said before that your stream is (because of that) the most entertaining, but I do not think any sane person considers you to be in the same league and class as the Dr.
I think you owe him an apology. Your outburst here is a let down to you, your fans and the 'official' streamer capacity you have at lichess. Your insinuations and abuse are appalling. I'm ashamed that you are able to represent my country.
First, don't talk about things you don't have any idea about. Such as the legal system (obviously) or how to beat Dr-Zaitzev (lol).
Second, you throw around insults and abuse like a troll and yet seem, somehow, to get away with it. You insinuate in a public forum that someone is a cheat, when everyone knows that this is not the way to do it. Use the 'report' button. He's blatantly not a cheat - but we all know how you hate it if you're not the centre of attention and the one who is winning...
You cannot criticise someone who makes the effort to commentate in a second language for making mistakes, and ripping into them for it is quite honestly distasteful. Have you ever tried doing that? Maybe try commentating properly in your mother tongue first!
Your commentary is watched by many people. A lot of these are there to laugh at the constant 'er... ums', nervous laughs and 'gordon bennetts' that pass for intelligent commentary. The little asides are hilarious afterwards. People don't say too much on Twitch when you're around because you're so trigger happy with the ban button.
Personally I enjoy the car-crash chess you play... and I've said before that your stream is (because of that) the most entertaining, but I do not think any sane person considers you to be in the same league and class as the Dr.
I think you owe him an apology. Your outburst here is a let down to you, your fans and the 'official' streamer capacity you have at lichess. Your insinuations and abuse are appalling. I'm ashamed that you are able to represent my country.
Yeah stop disrespecting his country and being such a bad influence on the younger generation ;)
I don't get it.
kaabeljao:
i saw the streams with you and zaitsev skyping. first you were beating him. then he got pissed and called you play crap. then he magically beated you saying like ooo all before a crazy taktik worked for him. didnt you noticed that he cheated you on stream?? zaitsev is highly suspicios no doubt.
i saw the streams with you and zaitsev skyping. first you were beating him. then he got pissed and called you play crap. then he magically beated you saying like ooo all before a crazy taktik worked for him. didnt you noticed that he cheated you on stream?? zaitsev is highly suspicios no doubt.
I don think ziatsev is cheating comebacks are not unheard-of.
and you spelled suspicious wrong.
and you spelled suspicious wrong.
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