Players disconnects after early blunder

Only to return and play an almost perfect game.

3 common things in these games.

1.Opponent Blunder a piece, usually early in the game.
2.Disconnects for 10 to 20 seconds
3. Plays rest of game almost or perfectly (as a result as a weak 15xx player I make a mistake and loses)

Report and Block == Nothing happens.

Do you have similar experiences ? And what can be done about this ?

1. Lets pretend nothing happened, it is just normal behavior. you get better by disconnerting. smile and keep on going ?
2.Minimize the time allowed to stay disconnected to 5 seconds!, IF player does this "all of the time"
3. Give them temp ban! 1 month to start with, if they keep playing in this pattern. (Disc. + huge improvement)

Yes, some play chess on a moving bus, etc. BUT they don't improve their game 500% after they come out of the road tunnel ;)

Most of the time, it is your perception that is leading you astray.

For example, if you have a look at one of your recent rapid games, where the opponent blunders a bishop early in the game. You were winning for many many moves after that, and then you did what your opponent did earlier: you blundered. You decided to give away a whole rook and were completely lost afterwards.

Blunders happen. Not only to your opponents, but to you as well. On your level, often multiple times in a game.

Don't think you won a game because you won a piece. If you don't follow up with strong moves, the other side often can build up some compensation. This seems a nice example of "relaxing too early".

Report and block seems the wrong approach on so many levels.

@nadjarostowa said in #2:
> Most of the time, it is your perception that is leading you astray.
>
> For example, if you have a look at one of your recent rapid games, where the opponent blunders a bishop early in the game. You were winning for many many moves after that, and then you did what your opponent did earlier: you blundered. You decided to give away a whole rook and were completely lost afterwards.
>
> Blunders happen. Not only to your opponents, but to you as well. On your level, often multiple times in a game.
>
> Don't think you won a game because you won a piece. If you don't follow up with strong moves, the other side often can build up some compensation. This seems a nice example of "relaxing too early".
>
> Report and block seems the wrong approach on so many levels.

Yes, Like I said. The opponent started to play blunder free chess, at a another level than before the "timeout" And at my level, 1500 I can only play good chess for a period of time,at some point the clock is starting to effect my thinking, especially as you mentioned with the "thought" in my head that there is something fishy going on. Do you really think that going offline and return to play blunder free chess with only the top moves is not worth a report ? Even though it happens a lot of time ? It can also be seen as an attempt to "distract" your opponent witch is also illegal in OTB chess. Should be treated the same in Online chess, to some point. Not by the first disconnection, but if the player disconnects multiple times during a game. Or ask for a draw multiple times.

At what point did I mention that I thought I won the game because I won a piece ? Or had such thoughts ?Please don't make things up.

Report and blocking is the only thing that you can do if you are suspicious of opponents behavior. Or if you are a real polite person you might only block.

I am sure that on your level, players don't keep on disconnecting as much as they do on my level, so enjoy the benefits :)

Yes Hola_Blox30 something should be done, not for the first time but if some player generates a pattern.

Just recently I played this game: lichess.org/HbScKxmk/

I blundered a piece early against a stronger opponent and thought about resigning but I decided to go on and see how long can I defend. Surprisingly, I started playing much better and my opponent had to work really hard to break my defense. According to your twisted logic, he should have "done the procedure" (as certain GM says) and report and blocked me. Instead, he complimented me for defending well and giving him a hard time. Was he wrong? Or, perhaps, might _you_ be wrong?

Thank you for confirming that you meant that recent game.

None of the moves by your opponent were suspicious. They rarely were within the couple of top engines moves. They were very human moves if you look at them.

Blunder-free chess is not as hard as you think. They made a couple of normal moves, and you blundered. From there on, their moves were extremely easy. Basically impossible not to make good moves. Just take the free stuff and attack or pin. Every 1000 Elo player would have those moves as their candidates.

And disconnecting does not mean anything. It is people losing connection, people checking mails, checking opponents profile, answering a message, ....

Really, do not get paranoid. If you start worrying, you will play worse, and are more likely to blunder things. Like here. And then complain about the opponent cheating, while in fact you handed over the point on a silver platter.

Well, you reported them and "nothing happened" - then obviously the Lichess anti-cheating-investigation couldn't find enough evidence. So you probably assessed the whole situation wrongly.
But if it helps, believe in evil powers every time you blunder a piece.

@nadjarostowa said in #6:
> Thank you for confirming that you meant that recent game.
>
> None of the moves by your opponent were suspicious. They rarely were within the couple of top engines moves. They were very human moves if you look at them.
>
> Blunder-free chess is not as hard as you think. They made a couple of normal moves, and you blundered. From there on, their moves were extremely easy. Basically impossible not to make good moves. Just take the free stuff and attack or pin. Every 1000 Elo player would have those moves as their candidates.
>
> And disconnecting does not mean anything. It is people losing connection, people checking mails, checking opponents profile, answering a message, ....
>
> Really, do not get paranoid. If you start worrying, you will play worse, and are more likely to blunder things. Like here. And then complain about the opponent cheating, while in fact you handed over the point on a silver platter.

You have clearly forgot how a 1500 player think while playing (which is probably a good thing). Moves that might be easy for you is not easy for a player with 400 lower elo. Don ̈ t forget that. And I doubt that reading an email. would disconnect you from the lichess site. The green ball might change color, but I assume that you have to close the browser window, to disconnect. And why would you do that after blundering a piece anyway ? Makes no sense.

I will continue reporting cases like these, . If nothing is done then I assume that they play a fair game,and the only "bad" thing is that we don't get to play each other again "buhuuu".

Adios amigos.

@Chessfinnisher said in #8:
> And I doubt that reading an email. would disconnect you from the lichess site.

Not in your browser, but if they are on mobile with only one app open at the time, it probably does. Like every app change.

> The green ball might change color, but I assume that you have to close the browser window, to disconnect.

The green ball the the very indicator for being connected or disconnected. Again, there are many ways to play on lichess.

> And why would you do that after blundering a piece anyway ? Makes no sense.

This is called confirmation bias. It happens when they're winning, too, but you won't make something out of it. Also, some people are more likely to lose interest in a game or need to vent off after blundering, but still commit to finish the game.

> I will continue reporting cases like these, . If nothing is done then I assume that they play a fair game,and the only "bad" thing is that we don't get to play each other again "buhuuu".

Statistically, you should expect to get around 50 % of the points when playing against similar rated opponents. Currently the stats says 199 wins, 182 losses, 22 draws.

How much losses did you find suspicious? I mean really, you sound like you report almost every opponent you lose against, while in reality everything is completely fine.

I wish people would just stop acting like the greatest cheat detectors ever when in reality they have absolutely no clue about the matter at all. At least keep those thoughts to yourself and don't encourage others to go mad as well.

And yes, I understand that you truly believe that those people are dishonest. Very very sad indeed.

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